Drawing with modern dancer Tebo Aumbara was a total fight. His movements were too big for my small paper. I drew at that time on 80 by 110 cm paper. So I started for the first time drawing on big sheets 170 by 140 cm. It gave us more possibilities, and it was the beginning of my love for big paper. On big paper, the drawer has to dance too. And it is not easy to keep the proportions right. It’s easy to draw two different drawings because working on your knees gives a totally different perspective than standing on your toes. The paper is bigger than me so you have to move. It was also the start for me to feel totally free in drawing.